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BEST RAPPER ALIVE LYRICS/YEAR | EPISODE 1 | "THE SIC SHOW"

Updated: Mar 6




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@thachillcmw | @montageone | @iammannyup


THE SIC SHOW The best rapper alive lyrics/year is the topic of episode 1 of the show. We broke down a Complex.com article as they have a list of the Best rapper Alive from 1979 to 2020, The Sic Show pick a few years and debated if the article was accurate and these conversations were lively.


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Big Dee

Yeah, yeah it is


Manny Up

That's right. That's right.


Montage One

What's good was good was good job.


Manny Up

is good. All right, welcome to the sic show. Yeah, season one episode one all you haters there's gonna be more episode one we got montage one we got montage.


Big Dee

Yeah,


Manny Up

we got tha chill. You got the show?


The Chillcmw

Yeah.


Montage One

And we got none other than Mr Manny Upshaw Yeah,


Manny Up

that's it yeah the guy that doesn't it always happens and I get a good problem


Big Dee

nah man that's mine. It sounded pretty good. You got to look at the board


Montage One

the one and only the one and only the one and only


Manny Up

Oh, here we go. Wait.


Big Dee

Yeah, okay,


The Chillcmw

we got the boy hot hot off. We got the boy Manny Up shot out in the building. Yo, what's up big man.


Montage One

There we go. All right. Thank you guys.


The Chillcmw

This is one of 1 million


Manny Up

This is one of 1 million thank you guys for tuning in to the sick show. We got a good show for you guys today. Yep, we do. We do. So our first topic will be the best rapper alive complex, which is a pretty good hip hop culture website. They have great shows. They did a comprehensive, although suggestive, and controversial. A comprehensive, best rapper alive are every year from 1990 1979 to 2020. Who was the first rapper period? And 79 1979 the first rapper they have as the best rapper alive in 1979. Carter's broke. I think it was cool. But let me take That's obvious. Yeah, best rapper alive in 79 was Oh, Grandmaster cash,


The Chillcmw

right. Um, I was gonna say,


Manny Up

Master Caz, gram.


Big Dee

Caz


Manny Up

That's pretty dope. That's pretty dope. They did a really, really good job and did a lot of background behind it. Very, very informative. Shout out the complex, complex, calm.


Montage One

I'm actually looking for the list you sent me and I cannot find it was there?


Manny Up

I know. Just Google the google google help. We're going to move along. Of course we cannot do everyone today. So we're just gonna pick five. And we're gonna discuss that and get it going. So the first one we're gonna do 1986 Let's bring it to 1986


The Chillcmw

I was around.


Manny Up

I think I was around


Montage One

graduation year.


Manny Up

I was still in high school, but I wasn't graduating at 1986 No,


The Chillcmw

I quit. Oh.


Manny Up

Okay. 1986 the best rapper alive per complex per complex is KRS one.


Montage One

not epmd although epmd would have been in there right? Like


The Chillcmw

it was out in 86


Manny Up

Yeah, so what's dope is that complex did honorable mention so either one could have been the best rapper alive so let's go with the honorable mentions 1986 Karis one is the best rapper alive per them for 1986 but honorable mentions is run. Run run too short too short though and SHCOOLY D

which is pretty dope. That's totally D you know SHCOOLY D was pretty dope, out of Philly. ICE T. ICE T admitted he really kind of liked this style. So


The Chillcmw

list


Manny Up

that is


The Chillcmw

you got SHCOOLY D to short Okay, I get that. But that doesn't mound up with Chris


Manny Up

That's right. That's


Montage One

what I'm trying to say. I was gonna say now, if I go back I remember with PSK, right. I remember thinking the beat was dope it in the rapper. That was me personally super fat. It had a he had a great like, you know, MC cadence but I never ever looked to him as like Like how it looked at cares one, like I'm just keeping this stack. He's a forefather out of Philly. But as far as bars???


The Chillcmw

Yeah. Yeah, real dope style and he was swagging on the beat, but the beat was, was was ... bananas.


Montage One

The beat was it. I mean, I beat was crazy.


Manny Up

To this day, It could get regular rotation to this


The Chillcmw

and you know, it represent a lot of things when it comes to hip hop. You know, I think it come from that six in the morning. Yeah,


Manny Up

which came? Yeah, it's like a trickle. Yeah, you had SHCOOLY D, ICE T came with six in the morning.


The Chillcmw

He came behind ICE T, then EAZY E and then us COMPTONs MOST WANTED



Manny Up

you got to do that. You got to do that. You got to chill, chill, chill. Okay, so that was 1986 86 and it seems so long ago, because it was and Yeah man, but we can I can give myself I'm gonna be like KRS ONE Okay, I'm gonna go with them. The Honorable Mentions was dope to me but Karis one I'm gonna give it to him. I don't know maybe you guys want to do it to where you gotta look at our school d d? I mean I really want to give it to schooling D cuz he kind of spawned West Coast. One of the West Coast cadences


The Chillcmw

Yeah, kind of say that but the Message did to by Melly Mel.


Montage One

everybody set up LA technically because we were kind of like last wit it, so we were just figuring it out.


Manny Up

second with it, was second we will east coast. Oh no, no,


Montage One

no, no, no, again. I'm sorry I'm being unfair because I don't even count them and what I'm even talking about right now we gotta count whoever you talking about. I gotta count I'm not gonna even say


The Chillcmw

Now they ran it for years if that's what we talking about,


Montage One

right? That's who we talking about? We're talking about, just so we're not coming off as haters like, I'm just saying to you know, I tell everybody and King T will tell you because King T was one of the first rappers from LA that'll tell you like we got moldy kind of from the east coast, you know? So So yeah, that's all G


Manny Up

know. for real.


The Chillcmw

But I don't think we got molded just from schooling D, I think.


Big Dee

D What do you think man? School ED? pS k was the molding for the hardcore, what we call on the West Coast gangsta rap. That was the signal for us for that style. So the so Kool G Rap. With G Rap came out to PS k, PS k was before Kool G RAP. Man,


Montage One

right? Right. Before him shout out to kool G RAP .


Manny Up

Yeah, for sure. about grace and grace out here. On to 1988 - 99.


Montage One

Who's in that spot?


Manny Up

1988.. 1988 is Slick, Rick.



Montage One

Now I want to go ahead and agree with that. Because


Manny Up

Wait, hold on, can I get an honorable mention? Come on. I picked numbers. So it could be controversial is Slick Rick and who else? Okay, here we go. Chuck D. Ice Cube . Big Daddy K.


The Chillcmw

I'm gonna put my money on ice cube.


Montage One

Okay, um,


The Chillcmw

cuz I'm from the west coast.


Manny Up

Now, just because Ice Cube was an honorable mention in 1988 doesn't mean in another year. He wasn't nominated or won. Right? I see. So we're going here for year so let's be fair about the year and why they picked Slick Rick, maybe Oh, Ice Cube.


Montage One

Well first of all the adventures of slick. Rick was out there. Again. Now that's not one person you mentioned other than Ice Cube, Ice Cube definitely had game changers. But at the time,


The Chillcmw

he was known as a writer. Because he wrote I'm just saying man, you got thing cube had left the most biggest group not just on the west coast, but on in hip hop history. At the time.


Montage One

Yeah. Exactly. leaving tonight. Yeah, exactly. So why is


Big Dee

he only making yourself right?


The Chillcmw

If you mentioned cube , you got to mention MC REN you gotta



Manny Up

let me tell and read it. Let me rewind cubes there. Ice Cube also punch listeners in the face that year on NWA straight out of Compton. right he barreled over the tracks with a force and a passion so they're going by his Participation in I ran wha right so Ice Cube on NWA not him. I


The Chillcmw

see you can't say Cube without REN.


Manny Up

Now that's true, but they're just going with the rapper. He got an honorable mention just for his heel down


Montage One

and it'd be in the camera. No, it's right behind you, you right in front of it.


Manny Up

So they put CUBE in, just on his accolades from the NWA stuff. Not on his own stuff cuz it's 1988 Okay, ??


Montage One

look that tells you the story right there. We talked about a man who had his whole album and everything on it is a fucking classic. So again, I agree with Slick Rick it should have been Slick Rick straight okay. Yep. Yeah, yeah. They rock him or rock rock him or rock following as you got so he's right. He was 87 right


The Chillcmw

i mean you know what you got to say Slick Rick in that in that situation?


Manny Up

Rakim was 1987 rocky they gave they gave it to him and 87


Montage One

and that's fair to


Manny Up

be fair to the honorable mentors and 87 were careless one again? LL Cool J and Kool Moe D cuz


Big Dee

I'm bad dropped Yeah, lol Come on man but I'm bad and I hate to say it I need love


The Chillcmw

need love


Montage One

outside of the treacherous three I don't know.




The Chillcmw

I use to go to the $2 movies in Long Beach.


Montage One

I need I need love to get this respect just because it had every dude getting in touch with his you know i don't know softer side but not feeling that way hardcore. Do you know the whole hand? Exactly.


Big Dee

East Coast cat use a West Coast DJ / producer. That's the main artists now the first one


The Chillcmw

serving cut creator on target. Oh Rock the Bells. Nice. Nice shout out Rob cat that's my boy.


Manny Up

We slid one in because I was gonna skip that one but we slid one and so okay, kr s 186


The Chillcmw

PDP Slick Rick


Manny Up

1988 and in between that was rock cam in 1987. We going straight to 1989 1989 after Slick Rick they got Big Daddy Kane as the best rapper alive in 1989. So


Montage One

they say him accurately. I'm


Manny Up

they are moving close to the close to the line.


The Chillcmw

I'm not even mad at that. Because let's


Manny Up

hold on to the honorable mentions before, I don't want you to cash the check . That gets written. I'll tell you who's up. Chuck D is an honorable mention the DOC. Be careful. Okay, the DOC and Kool G Rap so let's let's hear from


Montage One

Yeah, G Rap. Technically, even though he's my favorite of those three. He just wrote to the riches and stuff wasn't enough shout out to jinx and all that. It just wasn't enough compared to what we talking about. You know what I'm saying?



The Chillcmw

Man, I put my money on a Diggy diggy doc.


Big Dee

I gotta go came it's a big daddy thing. Yeah.


Montage One

I mean, look,


The Chillcmw

nobody was DOC. Dr. Dre was awesome.


Manny Up

Well, no, they was but Imma Imma go against all that and go with Chuck D FIGHT the power. That was


Montage One

Yeah, but that's one song.


The Chillcmw

But no big deal, bro. Okay,


Montage One

but you're sleeping on Big Daddy.


Manny Up

Kane. sleeping. Okay, that's


The Chillcmw

it. Oh, that's a hard ass list.


Manny Up

No, that's what makes it dope because it is hard and all three of the honorable mentions are. You could you could put half a dozen on one hand


The Chillcmw

I wouldn't even know who else to put in that list.


Manny Up

I don't know


Big Dee

for that year for the year did not have to go with a female I'll say Queen Latiffa announcer breakout year for solo


The Chillcmw

man Come on shout out the Queen but she can't go with Yeah,


Montage One

her album didn't do it like that. Do we? do see hold the whole records how


Big Dee

Big Daddy Kane the whole record. Yeah.


Montage One

Every last cut on there.


The Chillcmw

But I used to write to that


Manny Up

THE DOC. KNOW ONE CAN DO IT BETTER



The Chillcmw

I don't know about Kane . Oh, come on, man. That's the Diggy diggy. Doc. This show. I think he would have been Jay Z if he didn't have accident.


Montage One

He would have had more years already know .


The Chillcmw

Yeah, I mean that pin game that's Snoop Dogg that pin game Dr. Dre.


Manny Up

You know that pin?


The Chillcmw

bananas? Yeah, it's been there still to this day. Yes.


Manny Up

Bananas. Banana, for sure. For sure. Okay, let's go to 1990 1990 is ice cube, okay, I go. America, he might go in there. But America's Most Wanted. Just, you know, phenomenal. Let's


Montage One

talk about that album for a minute. So that album is monumental. In a whole lot of ways. On a whole nother level. Let's start with the most obvious he made the whole United States respect the Jheri curl. We'll talk cuz it was kind of funny before it in and like when he busted and he had that curl like I think the East Coast at that point respected the curl. You know what I'm saying? It was wet too. Like he was


Manny Up

trying to dry it out.


Montage One

It had the ammonia smell


The Chillcmw

like he was fresh off the back.


Montage One

So yeah, exactly had the ammonia smell. So it was like honestly, the whole connecting with the Shockley brothers right? That was in I was on the east to the west like that may the East Coast cuz you know, let's be honest. Let's go back. East Coast was fucking haters of the West Coast. And I don't mind you because our respect to my G's are here but we was coming with the Rinky dink beats for a long time and it


The Chillcmw

was a competitive game and I feel like you know hip hop started on that. course they don't sit on anything. we prove ourselves most


Montage One

of our beats were kind of rinky dink until we started once we started dabbling with them like when NWA. Finally, did we


The Chillcmw

have Bobby? Bobby? Jimmy and the critters ? Right, right. Exactly.


Montage One

the battering ram.


Manny Up

I mean, that's how you slide into a genre. Honest, you got to slide.


Montage One

people thought King T was from New York because


The Chillcmw

of payback. Like Biggie got his style from Right.


Montage One

Exactly. King T. No, he really did you really do perfect. And it makes sense because it I thought King T was from the East Coast at first because I was going off of like, Oh, that's that dirtier kind of sample kind of beat like I remember hearing it on k day Monday. And I was like, Yo, this shit is hard. So I'm damn lost myself.


The Chillcmw

Well, we will talk about cube and 1990 right


Montage One

cube and 90 got the connection at a to make my East Coast like no fillers. He's He's do super monumental for that. That's like Super Game Changer role. Like he made them respect us, bro.


The Chillcmw

For me. I think that everything is an energy domain and the energy that cube had around him and the stuff that was coming at him because he just left the group. And it was just so much pressure. And whatever he wanted to do not Dr. Dre around or whatever he wanted to do with NWA. He was actually able to do that. Right? Yeah, I mean, because NWA was like basically the public me on the west coast. Right? Right. I mean, so he was able to actually go get Hank Shockley right? Y'all mean and take Jenks with him and they just come with America's moron


Montage One

right? I will ask the guy he does. The Jinx. I told you all the time on tour, bro. What if I told you all the time on tour bro. Or I told you on tour bro. Like that was monumental. My nigga as much as we used to argue and shit like


The Chillcmw

they had around them. Hank Shockley, Busta Rhymes. All these people in the building your warehouse Jheri curl, right? He had to do


Manny Up

it. He had to go with the hatchet.


Montage One

He was ready to laugh at that nigga.


The Chillcmw

It was ready to


Manny Up

rock that hatchet. And it was like, Hey, sit down and listen. If he was in a


Montage One

booth, Hey, he's one of the main reasons why they like the East Coast like says Well yeah,


Manny Up

bro. That was up close and personal day when they was digging in the car in a crate together. Right shocky brotherhood, they


The Chillcmw

put that whole thing together. So who's with you?


Manny Up

Okay, LL Cool J is an honorable mention again with cube FOSS. Chak de


Montage One

la dee


Manny Up

and Grand Poobah.


The Chillcmw

What???


Montage One

Yeah I mean it was monumental


The Chillcmw

shout out to Grand out to them okay put that in the same thing as America's Most Wanted bro slow down and on


Montage One

everything on it pretty much hit and it was still monumental enough


The Chillcmw

to get beat down okay


Montage One

so but listen everything on that first app the whole I'm gonna tell you what it is like it was the coming of age of that like black unity that's all that matters a lot like he had to destroy


Manny Up

Sanders that was like one of the plan like rock him was 5% but nobody is really was like


Big Dee

that was a movement



yeah i think is needed again


The Chillcmw

I mean if you hear too much gangster rap everybody want to be a gangster right if you're all too much trap rap everybody think they trap


Manny Up

right it's true that's true.


The Chillcmw

So I think just to break the monotony we need more x clan, poor righteous teachers for sure. Yeah, I mean the you know, along


Manny Up

with everything else.


The Chillcmw

But I liked it.


Montage One

Yeah, no, no. Only thing that was monumental about him was getting thrown off the stage


The Chillcmw

shout out to him. But no play all right. Yeah.


Manny Up

They definitely can't be on the best and it was not moving. Moving on. 1991 might be controversial. A minor might tickle your fancy might not. Q tip 1991 best rapper alive. No, hold on. Let's go to the honorable mentions and give a full a full present.


Montage One

Best voice at the time.


Manny Up

I will say I picked this because this one will be controversial. Okay. 1991 Q Tip honorable mention. Scarface the face Scarface


The Chillcmw

Okay,


Big Dee

first of all,


The Chillcmw

first of all first solo Mr. Scarface yeah


Montage One

and and keep in mind gentlemen if we need to go to the tail of the tape we can like we are hooked into the Lord so I at least I am Bluetooth so we need to play anyway like that's right let it be known because


Manny Up

we got a Stretch


Montage One

Stretch what i mean but I mean do do a couple good song but like again, bro like Alright, so maybe it's unfair because I'm an MC, but like I'm looking and I was an MC kind of in time. So I'm like, what really moved me as an MC and I can say trash never. I thought the songs were good. Like they came with the first really good rap hits. But I never was thinking like super bars when I listened to


The Chillcmw

the Treach and Vinnie


Montage One

is a total difference. And Treach


The Chillcmw

was really slicing with his style. Right so he was really doing that gas flow back then when dudes wasn't doing


Montage One

D Dee just in case put up put the Bluetooth channel to where the other channels aren't unmuted, just in case a lot of times on


The Chillcmw

while he was playing.


Montage One

I'm just saying just in case he was you know, he


The Chillcmw

ready to push. I mean,


Montage One

we're just mute.


Manny Up

a big fan of Treach.


The Chillcmw

I'm a fan. I'm Who else was it again? Treach?


Manny Up

I would say so the Scarface and black sheep


The Chillcmw

black sheep. The only record monumental record you could get with this


Montage One

video. Also a monumental video


The Chillcmw

totally hands on matching the paper. Come on. I was doing that one song and they just never did nothing else. They're done right it was done. Let's


Montage One

be honest,


The Chillcmw

but you can't put it up against Mr. Scarface.


Montage One

No, you can no because think about that record song for song man. There was a really a lot of good fucking songs on that record, bro. on black sheeps black sheeps album.


Big Dee

I would go more if that was the case. They should have flavor the Monday de la Sol. Boom, right. They want to do black sheep. Dead. Yeah, we showed him MC cube.


The Chillcmw

I think Scarface was more impactful. I ain't gonna lie me coming off the NWA Ice Cube run and we want to smoke gangsterism that cracked open the dough for the South. And on top of that. They thought he was so gangster with it. They thought that he was from the west. They got the ghetto boys.


Montage One

Yo, y'all gonna hate me but I never thought Scott face was like the one of the illustrious like he gets brought up a lot as one of the illest rappers mm hmm I don't ever remember Scott like that his best song to me is the one that knocks did the beat the girl you know? That's my favorite song so


The Chillcmw

you didn't like the other hand have a dead body


Montage One

I'm not gonna say I didn't like their his songs but again like ice cube and never say Scarface never said to chill up my spine


The Chillcmw

whenever ever he did. He did that with with the ghetto boys my block never never seen a man cry until I seen the man die right? All good sorry. No, no No, no me all good songs. Even the ghetto boys.


Montage One

Going back to like when we first started this, that nigga said to chill up my spine bro. Like, like ice cubes hit the chill up my spine like a lot of these niggas.


The Chillcmw

I think I think the ghetto boys and face did that for me because they was coming from a different place. And back then we didn't have all these windows to see how people was living. Right? Y'all mean so he really took us to Houston. And that's what I can respect about an MC? Like Like, like, no rah, he's saying I'm from where are you? Where are you from? Where you're at? So back then we didn't have these computers in our hands and you know, Instagram and all this extra stuff. You mean so that was our window into Staten Island or you I'm saying I was on window into Houston or even when Snoopy Can I was on window into Long Beach right yummy


Montage One

I'm glad greeted


The Chillcmw

like about an MC if they can make me feel like I'm where they from. And I think Scarface definitely made me feel that that Houston vibe.


Manny Up

Here we go. Let's get a clap out for scar.


The Chillcmw

Yeah, I think you


Manny Up

know why? Cuz he felt like he was in Houston. Yeah. That's what art is communication. No, you see, I'm


The Chillcmw

saying we bus here you know, I'm saying but that's what they do out there and that and that's the language they talk and


Montage One

he did but you know, again and again to me, they never got any like, play it again. Actually, like I like I listened to it. And I woul