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THE GREASTST HIP HOP PRODUCERS | EPISODE 3 | " THE SIC SHOW "

THE SIC SHOW/The Greatest Hip Hop Producers are discussed as we take a look at the DJBooth.com article written by. Andy James The cast of ‘The Sic Show” have a lot to say about this as we dive in to the list. Timbaland , RZA , The Neptunes , Kanye West , Just Blaze , J Dilla , Dr Dre , DJ Premire.



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@thachillcmw | @montageone | @iammannyup |


Montage One

Yes, once again god dammit. You know what it is the sick show all day every day West Coast East Coast north south. What the fuck?


Manny Up

All right. Welcome to "The Sic Show" with my boy MONTAGE ONE


Montage One

Yeah,


Manny Up

we know THA CHILL. And I am at Manny.


Montage One

Manny.


Manny Up

All right, we got a hot one today we're gonna get right to it right to it.


The Chillcmw

What's the deal?


Manny Up

The deal is, okay, let me let me give you a little prerequsite


The Chillcmw

the big old deal is...


Manny Up

is we going,,, all right,,, DJ booth, website, DJ booth .com shout out Dave. Shout out to DJ booth. Shout out to Dave. They do great articles. They do great culture. So they got the eight greatest hip hop producers of all time. And they didn't put it in any particular order. But they did. They did one through eight. But what are the numbers? Number one through eight. But you know, you can tell who they want a number 1234 This is gonna be answered, oh, it's gonna be interesting. You can best believe that. And of course, they got honorable mentioned. Yeah. So we're gonna go with number eight. They didn't name it number eight, but I'm gonna go bottom to the top. And in the discussions, if you say why why I'll say some honorable mentions. And that may put it into their perspective. But we're gonna do our perspective. But we just don't use them as outlined because that's dope DJ booth.com dub dub dub. All right, let's go by "Andy James" is the author. Number eight. Number eight is TIMBERLAND. Hmm,


Montage One

way and what's this category again?


The Chillcmw

Well, we know that he we know he's not number eight. He's more like number five.


Manny Up

Number eight is Timbaland. And the category again, the eight greatest hip hop producers of all time.



Montage One

I personally don't he would not fall in at number eight. I know without thinking for myself. Okay, so myself.


Manny Up

All right. Well, let me just give you a few. But he's dope though. Oh, no. Let me let me just hold on by yourself dope by himself, though, period. But let me just tell you why a little bit of his body of work on why he fell into this. They didn't name him eight or two. I'm just going for the bottom going up. And it was only eight. So I'm going to say he's a cuz he's at the bottom. Because one and two, you're gonna be like, Oh, yeah, one and two. So he's got to be eight in there thinking they just didn't name it. Alright, let's go jigga nigga What? Jay Z big pimpin? Of course, yep. Missy Elliott, of course, I thought was the dopest female MC that and, of course, foodies, but I thought Missy was really dope. A lot of Jay Z. No, no, he's


Montage One

talking about


Manny Up

female See?


Big Dee

Because he was Yeah,


Manny Up

exactly. Because Lauryn Hill. Yeah. Yeah. I thought they were both impactful. And people may be like, . I thought Missy Elliott, you know, advanced the culture. Oh, yeah.


The Chillcmw

Okay, hands down


Manny Up

to me. What else? So that's what we got. So that's what we got. We got 50 cent. He did stuff for 50 cents. And, you know, I'm doing that he got a lot of Timberlake and a lot but that's again, he's


The Chillcmw

all over the place. Right. What's one of your favorite tempo tracks? Off the top of the brain. Get Your FREE go. You're one in a million was brushed shoulders off?


Manny Up

Yeah. Jay Z. Okay, so Timbaland. So you got me into with two hip hop tracks. And one of them it was that Aaliyah?


Montage One

Yeah, that was a lead in the r&b tracks.


Manny Up

Timbo, Timbo,


Montage One

Timbo, Timbo, but I know if I sit down and I start writing this shit down, he's not gonna make it in the top eight. I know that for a fact. No, no, not in the top eight. There's something a little more like his style is super dope and intricate. But it's I don't know it's more more upscale than then then the chamber that I you know lust after


The Chillcmw

man Timbo should is hip hop expensive


Montage One

yeah man.


The Chillcmw

Lane by itself shot shout out to Devin Jodeci and all I don't know the story, but at the same time that Tripoli get


Manny Up

out. Oh, he's in those spaces.


Montage One

Oh yeah he's in he's in a trip against myself and it sounds 132 to be exact triplet


Manny Up

no doubt he's in the spaces but let's go with honorable mentions just as a cloud. We're gonna go with a cloud of producers that's honorable mentions. Pete Rock, Mannie Fresh. The Alchemists Okay,


Montage One

Alchemist is definitely in here from exactly ninth wonder not just because he's the homie just because he


The Chillcmw

and these is just our preferences.


Manny Up

And no, these are their, their theories. And we'll just be like, you know, so you'd be like, well,


The Chillcmw

cuz I don't want to sound like a hater.


Manny Up

Yeah, so that's why I'm giving you all there. B


The Chillcmw

ut I will tell the truth.


Montage One

I wish I would put Alchemists over Timberland in my personal


The Chillcmw

that's a great opinion.


Manny Up

Exactly. And that's honorable mentioned.


Big Dee

have to agree with MONTAGE I mean, hip hop,


The Chillcmw

if you just go and we say hip hop or boom, bap no


Big Dee

hip hop is boom, bad.


The Chillcmw

I put it this way. What are you gonna say nothing, even separate him out of it, which I know is kind of where it's going with your partner conversation, but I'm just saying like, our just his lane is just let's just say a preference. And that's probably what it is for me. Like outside of that. I can't take nothing from Timberland. Like he's not a loser. He just probably wouldn't make wouldn't make my topic. Okay, let me make my top eight. And I'm just guessing if by the time I did 20, I'm sure he would probably fall in there just strictly offer like creditable default money. Could you could you picture Alchemist with Snoopy ? producing a joint for these kinds of artist?


Montage One

Uh, oh, yes. Yes, I could. Yes, I could. Yes, I could. Because the reason Yes, because at the end of the day, they all fuck with what he does. And at the end of the day, if they did it, it's gonna be fucking though. It's gonna


The Chillcmw

be amazing, but some people can't handle it. And some people just don't understand a lane right. Well, that's true. Sorry, more honorable mentions. Let's


Manny Up

keep going. Alchemist Ninth Wonder, Q Tip, large Professor, Madlib. Okay, Rick Rubin. The bomb squad. Okay, Marley Mar. Huh? havoc. P does he write? organized noise had to no ID Okay, Jermaine Dupri DJ quick Swiss beats. Oh, Eric Sherman. Huh? Scott storage. Prince Paul. Huh? Boy ID Uh huh. Mike will made it. Mike Dean. E IP. They told me MF Doom. Metro boomin. Right. And Lord finesse. Those are the honorable mention.


The Chillcmw

No. 1500


Manny Up

No. 1500 and no Cat.


The Chillcmw

No Battle Cat. Well, you know you got DJ quick and no cat. You got


Montage One

to see that right there. Yeah, it's battle cat not being in there considering that's really in their land all the measurements down.


The Chillcmw

I mean, cat is another one like Timbo. He's dope by himself, right? I mean, when it comes to that clap, yeah. Many people have tried to do it. But ain't nobody gonna do it like,


Montage One

Well, yeah, you gotta clap.


The Chillcmw

Yeah, well, you hear a cat. Man. First of all, that's my bro. Yeah. I can call him a hot home. I know him but hot leaving jumps as soon as a cat. I don't care if it's 9294 90 6pm. Yeah, I know. It's him. That's it. That's it. That's a cat. Right. And that's the same thing with a Timberland. And a switch beats


Manny Up

not to be mentioned, is a slight. But you know, the West is used for slightly, too. We just go that's why we hear


The Chillcmw

that DJ quick is another one.


Manny Up

Oh, for sure. He's in there. I was always in there. DJ quick is in there.


The Chillcmw

I wouldn't have put Mannie Fresh in here.


Big Dee

I would.


The Chillcmw

And I hate you. I'm sad. I'm


Montage One

not. I'm not.


Big Dee

There's a story


The Chillcmw

behind that. Not at all. Not at all. I never met personally young Sam but out of 10 beats. I've heard of him. I probably liked it too.


Montage One

I'm gonna keep it a stack g like I gotta


Manny Up

go. I gotta do more research before I make a choice.


Montage One

I'm not rolling with Manny. I'm rolling with this man. He But yeah, I like Manny Manny balki Trust me, fuck with the Mannie Fresh.


Big Dee

Oh, Dee can.


Montage One

Yeah, you know, I mean, he has some really great bacey novelty type beats but novelty like novelty, novelty novelty.


Big Dee

Connection. Oh my goodness.


The Chillcmw

I like that. Yeah.


Montage One

Which one are you doing for Mac 10? I mean, and then and let me say there's definitely some Wi Fi in here and think about it.


The Chillcmw

Yeah, that was dope. Listen,


Montage One

there's some that I'm sure when you like hone in on it. I'm gonna be like, yo, that shit is dope. But honestly, as a producer, like there's so many things over here.


Big Dee

I don't know, man. The whole juvie first two albums The first lane


Montage One

you take him over say Pete Rock, but


Big Dee

no but it should be honerable mention.


Montage One

I just wanted to see on a quick like throw out


The Chillcmw

out of Mannie Fresh and beach bought a panel I'm going by beach bought a panel


Montage One

I know them but I gotta be like brought back on one or they cut you some but I know that name


The Chillcmw

all that mystical shit they was doing


Montage One

Yeah. Okay,


The Chillcmw

I'll let you know masterpiece shit go here see murder yeah yummy yummy ready


Big Dee

Hello let me go


Montage One

I really wasn't fucking with no limit I'ma just keep it i was i was i was like mystical had some but I was like didn't happen to me. I didn't like SILH THA shocker


The Chillcmw

yeah I like C Murder


Montage One

wasn't a C Murder fan


The Chillcmw

like to see murder and some of that shit Master P was on was kind of clever. Listen for that way but no no no clever


Montage One

was there on a lot of them wreck Yeah, but as a spinner like I really was like, ya know,


The Chillcmw

I know that you feel about him on a laylo remix? Or La Jolla whole original Master P on a Dr. Dre beat.


Montage One

Um, let's just say I don't remember it now. So


The Chillcmw

no limit to DA LA SOUL.


Montage One

Look, I'm not saying when I say that I wasn't filming people like that. Like, I will never take away their moments. But as far as like, like me just kind of focusing in and going like yeah, I really fuck with that nigga like I can't really say that


Manny Up

I fucked with their movement for sure.


The Chillcmw

Oh yeah. Hey, I respected us Hands Down movies. But like I said if I had much if I had to go through you no what i mean, if I had a choice to pick between because we talked about a john or now Yeah, I mean you know you got the West Coast genre over you got the East Coast genre. You got the dirty south genre, you know I'm saying now if I sound and different sounds


Big Dee

sounded different from Atlanta Atlanta sound different.


The Chillcmw

Exactly. As well as the midwest. Were you thinking about Bone Thugs and twisting all of your means but if I had to go with Manny I have to go with somebody in his jonway that and the only people I could think of is Beachbody. That's true and I put my money on


Manny Up

in a in a sec. But that was a roundabout honorable mention. Okay, I'm sure we'll be back to that soon.


The Chillcmw

Frederick.


Montage One

no Fred Wreck is killing off Gang of niggas. Hey


The Chillcmw

on da low hard. on da low hard,


Montage One

he shout out to Fred Wreck give a round of


The Chillcmw

Rick Rock beats the mechanics


Manny Up

All right. Number seven.


Montage One

Moving on.


Manny Up

RZA number seven. There was a movement to me like Master P with a sound true. And if you like a movement and some people would like their movement better than WU movement, then you'd be like yeah, visit is all the time in a great



The Chillcmw

man for me. And once again, I'm not hating. But I ride low riders. And I love Wu Tang clan. Yes, but I'm not bumping into my low rock.


Montage One

Come on, man. You can't you telling me you can't bump criminology in your low rider. That should probably be a


The Chillcmw

truck. See I got all my fatigue today. So yeah, I'll get off into some reason why I'm saying but when I'm in my khaki suit.


Montage One

It's a no go.


The Chillcmw

His beats is not mixed.


Montage One

Enough OF that. Enough OF that I understand what you


The Chillcmw

what that says Get down you know wat i mean. When we were just watching versus inhuman PreMo i did not understand it, maybe it was the sound was messed up, but I'm like,


Montage One

how about incarcerated scar faces? Without like,


The Chillcmw

candidly when it was all


Montage One

private that's not really makes good I'm trying to really sit here as an engineer figure out one of them and I would have to say incarcerated scars that wouldn't make


Manny Up

if he got he


The Chillcmw

just got a distinctive sound how you get out It sounds like he's I mean I'm bass heavy. I'm Barry White with the beach. They'll mean I want my drums up there. You'll mean so that's just me so I don't know if this is you know, fair for me it's a Ws war shout out the


Montage One

Bluetooth channel please.


The Chillcmw

Oh shit.


Montage One

We got to go to the toilet.


The Chillcmw

Well, let's go then. Let's do this for a while. Yeah, I've been wanting to do


Manny Up

a beat that's mixed well


Montage One

let's go there. Right You got that? You got that up in there.


The Chillcmw

That shit with Mary J. Blige and lift up the channel


Montage One

Yeah, oh wait you know what and that's my bad I never connected hold on let me connect real quick let me connect real quick ready? No, I'm ready. I'm ready just like that


The Chillcmw

we're not supposed to trust anyone in our profession anyway we don't see that and we gotta be like


Montage One

No, man Come on, man. Bro Come on, man. Yeah, all I'm saying is bro


The Chillcmw

I'ma tell you like Ray and Ghosts Meth you got all the whole clan? They rhymes they rhymes is accommodate his beats yeah the I'm saying that's what makes them dope to me. If I if RZA He didn't really put produce for nobody but the whoo Right. Right.


Big Dee

Grave Diggas is


The Chillcmw

picture RZA producing for BIG or


Manny Up

I could see BIG on a RZA track. It wouldn't be as melodic and he didn't do mix for biggie.


Big Dee

When did it begin math? Didn't you do


Montage One

not I was premiere premiere


The Chillcmw

our picture rockin for NAZ. That'd be easier.


Big Dee

He's never did and it was


Manny Up

I think they will all get down on it for sure. I mean, figure it out but and and it sound fantastic. The


The Chillcmw

wall they definitely accommodate his beats. Like you could tell that gang it's like the devil.


Montage One

Because I can say Listen, I love the Wu and I love the result with the Wu right but I am not a Bobby Digital fan like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, is cool is unique and in hella like, you know, underground and dark. But I'm like, you gotta give me some better beats


The Chillcmw

unorthodox you know I'm saying her premiere and a dove See, right? Nobody I never think it happened. Y'all mean now put Mac team with risen no Palooza would risen. Oh,


Manny Up

well they both great artists so they would do something that was actually


The Chillcmw

like that.


Big Dee

I got one of your boy did one he did the remix with ODB, MC Eiht.


The Chillcmw

Yay. And that was a that was a recipe. No, that was a Rick Rock beat


Big Dee

Rick Roc did that one. Yes.


The Chillcmw

Okay, that was a Rick rock beat that was in Oakland. I remember there was an Oakland and rock remix. Dirt dog and ran into a was dark shout out to 32 that's the homie he used to be in the hood. But he was like, get on the song. And that's an unorthodox as feature right there. Eight dB, but that was a lot of people don't know about that jam.


Manny Up

That's true. Yeah. Great. catchy. Give me Give yourself some applause for


The Chillcmw

that. Shout out to Dave.


Manny Up

Shout out to Big D again, our Wikipedia. Let's go. Alright. So RZA, number seven, or number seven, and they're non numbered, eight, but you're gonna say it's eight. But you don't number him. I think that's a cheat.


The Chillcmw

So I'm gonna say Timbo is way over. Okay? But I love that guy, though. Has that I just watched the movie that was so hard to resist. Yeah.


Manny Up

It's hard to know


Big Dee

what the TV show or the


Manny Up

series The docu series


Big Dee

is two things he got he got the the series about them and Then of course the docu drama Mike segment,


The Chillcmw

he got some music. that have nothing to do with rap. That's awesome.


Montage One

been sitting here and I've been thinking about it I'm like, I don't think the RZA would make my topic 8. So just to be fair and now you see there's an extreme of the two so yeah, no, no Yes. What? Give me a round applause god damn it cuz montage that haters


Manny Up

is that after after Episode 4 they gonna say montage is tough.


Montage One

Yeah, they gonna be like, Yeah.


Manny Up

All right, so moving on. Number six. The Neptune Hmm


Montage One

Hmm. Just because


Manny Up

Chad Hugo to Add him because they never do for Ferrell Williams, Chad Hugo, The Neptunes.


The Chillcmw

I like Chad More than Ferrell.


Manny Up

I just combined them on I'm just like, Yeah, I like him. I like The Neptunes. Thank you. Number six, I don't know, especially for hip hop. Now, let's go down and this is not a lot of hip hop, but really, super, super thug along with Nori


Big Dee

Nori album, your first album solo album, which brought them to the light. Yeah.


Manny Up

Let me tell you listen, to be honest


The Chillcmw

Da clips.


Montage One

Y'all Listen. Listen, man. Listen, man. Y'all trippin dogs. like think about how All right, let's, let's bring what's his name back up again. Timlin. Right. Yeah, sure. Now, Timberland got a lot of chamber going on in his music. But it don't have courses and breaks like, like, how to stick around. Like, let's not forget, he wrote that one song. He shot the Michael Jackson. I know, Linda, Mike was like, I fucked up when I passed on that. That's true. You know what I'm saying? And he just has those kind of melodies and breakdowns that actually come from that Motown era and shit like that. And he like, incorporates it into what he's doing now. And he kills like a few little genres. Like he got the fucking skate rock genre, like type beats. He got the fucking street shit. Yeah.


The Chillcmw

This thing that when Tim went when Timbo going to studio, he's into creating sounds you're gonna hear gorillas monkeys, birds All right, I give them that the chat and for real it's like they just pull up the same beat erase it and distort another beat.


Manny Up

Okay, but let me tell you using this same set, let me let me tell you why. They folk Ito but let me tell you to hit because he's fuckin hit. Oh,


Big Dee

no, I'm talking about trying to hit a catalog. A catalog? Right? super tired, huh?


Manny Up

Yeah. Mr. Mystakal shake your ass. Busta Rhymes, Usher


The Chillcmw

All them beats you just name that fast. Got the same drum sounds that good talk. Bamp Bamp. You ain't got beautiful boss Snoopy in here. Yo, I'm saying all the time. Okay. Same size stuff. We got that. He got that shit a


Manny Up

check to the


The Chillcmw

same Sam Bamp Bamp Bamp Bamp.


Montage One

Guitar you're talking? It's not


The Chillcmw

a Jay Z. I'm a hustler? Is that the same guy?


Montage One

Kinda. You talk about the same one so stupid. Well,


Big Dee

you know what? But he did do that same thing with eight is the same thing. That is true.


Montage One

Well, I don't know man. Look on his behalf. I'll say I wish him in numbers. I love


The Chillcmw

Neptune's if it ain't broke. don't fix it.


Big Dee

I got him six. Maybe I might even have five


Montage One

with a again. I'm gonna fuck you up again. I don't think he actually makes my top 10. No, seriously, your top 8 I love them. No,


Manny Up

who's over? Who's Over?


Montage One

I was gonna have to seriously first I'm a weirdo bro. Cuz like First of all, I don't believe in any real true favorites because everybody like, you


Manny Up

know, that's facts


Montage One

that you do like so. But I can say like, those aren't my heart string like prizes where I'm like, Oh my God. You know, I'm saying


The Chillcmw

it's a couple in there. That is though. Okay.


Manny Up

Well, let's go to number five Kanye West.


Montage One

Okay, now Kanye is definitely in my top eight somewhere


The Chillcmw

his first couple albums.


Manny Up

Yeah. Jay Z stuff.


The Chillcmw

I should he did and the camera stuff.


Montage One

Yeah like like yeah the shit he did for NAS was kinda well knows like that last night but then the gospel album like that one songs I was talking retarded Oh like


The Chillcmw

so they have fell into it like my first project right as a young man but then you know he was just doing shit just to be doing shit. Yeah, I mean, I'm a


Montage One

college dropout killing all evaluation. He was killing it.


Manny Up

Yeah. And he's doing it himself and you know, right in the top eight.


Big Dee

He can't he can't go right. Is he always


Montage One

whatever he's a producer bro. I know that's amazing


The Chillcmw

and all that shit back in


Big Dee

the day for Dipset


The Chillcmw

that was dope. Yeah, he ASR 10 he did a lot.


Montage One

chillin chillin laughing dipshit Yeah, I fuck with him. caffeic with Kanye.


The Chillcmw

I voted for Kanye. Yeah, I don't


Montage One

I don't even fuck with that he


The Chillcmw

would have fucked around and one guy.


Montage One

Like, I don't know if I want him as a leader but I fuck what I did it because I won't


The Chillcmw

bind them or Trump, right. I know. kayang gonna win. So I say can be caught if, if Eric B was there. I would have voted for him. Yeah, right. Before


Montage One

I would have voted. I actually would have came out and voted for that new president.


Manny Up

out the egg beat What did I say? Kanye was five, four. Let's go. Just Blaze.


Montage One

All right now I know what Yeah, and I'm gonna say you know what, he probably got a smaller amount of catalogs. And but I'ma just say this nigga like you can have them little diamonds. A gang. I'm sitting over there. And then is that Vivi? You could just have two or three V's my MB when and B Williams and blaze he's definitely dope by itself and the small catalog that he has. is very powerful. That's true. He's on if you notice a lot of people that'd be doing shit and then motherfuckers be taking a little bit of this a little bit of that from them. I don't hear nobody taking none from place do the shit for Jay Electronica bro like that shit. Like, that shit. Like, hit my spine? Like Like how knee deep hit the gang? Yeah, she hit my


The Chillcmw

but just blaze was brief.


Montage One

I thought yeah, with Jay Z killed that note with


Big Dee

our fabulous breed.


Montage One

That's right. That's what I'm saying. But who did Jay Z's breed? That shit was hard to


Big Dee

think of young girl


Montage One

that she was hard to But anyway, yeah.


The Chillcmw